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Forum: Wishes and new features

Topic: WISHES FOR NEW VERSION
1. I NEED THE COLORED WAVE FORMS GREY OUT ON STEMS
2. I NEED THE DECK TO CLONE WITH THE PRESENTLY SELECTED STEMS (NOT SURE IF ITS A MAPPING ISSUE )
3. STEM 2.0 SEPARATION TO BE FASTER (950GTX 4GB VRAM +12GB RAM DDR3 I7 INTEL) TAKES 3-5 MINUTES
4. AFTER SOMEONE PURCHASES APP A MAPPER FOR THEIR PARTICULAR CONTROLLER MAY BE NEEDED IT TOOK ME SOME TIME TO CALIBRATE VDJ TO SIMILAR SETTINGS OF SERATO.... MY FRIENDS USE SERATO AND WHEN WE CHANGE OVER MY QUALITY IS NOTABLY POORER IN THE FREQUENCIES USING SAME CONTROLLER SCRATCH ALSO SOUNDS DIFFERENT
5. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO COLOR THE ENTIRE HOTCUE PADS IN THE GUI (LIKE SERATO )
6. THE ABILITY TO COLOR TRACKS ACCORDING TO CAMELOT WHEEL
7. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF USING AN OS LIKE WIN 7 WITH MUCH LESS BACKGROUND APPS WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE FOR STEM PROCESSING WITH TODAY'S HARDWARE ...IS THERE A WAY?
THOSE ARE THE FEW THINGS I THINK WOULD MAKE VDJ MORE COMPETITIVE AND ATTRACTIVE AGAINST MY SERATO COUNTERPARTS.
 
Posted yesterday @ 11:47 pm
Reading some of those comments you clearly don't have a clue.
 
Posted 17 hours ago
I'll eloaborare a bit/take a slightly gentler stab at the points.


  1. I think is true - this ability doesn't exist yet but imo that is not a need (it affects nothing you hear and really you should be focusing on that and your equipment rather than your screen to determine the level of a stem part)
  2. This is something I've seen too and it was discussed (stem levels not being oart of the clone), but you could get around it with additional vdjscript in theory
  3. is because you not having a good enough machine + GPU. Besides the stems specific info on the Minimum Requirements page, there are a few posts on the topic with some speed measurements - here is one.
  4. is a well discussed topic (Seraro coloring its output, VirrualDJ being true to the original output), and there are a few posts with suggestions on how to narrow that (adjusting your zeroDB level, using a loudness maximizer on your master output). Please search the forum for those.
  5. Is another asthetic issue that is solvable with skin adjustment but really has no bearing on sound output (once again, imo, focus on your mixing/equipment, rather than your screen). The color information is being represented on the pads, but it's up to the skins to determine how that is displayed.
  6. This is already doable and even automatically (read up on color rules)
  7. It's not clear why you would think going back to a discontinued OS, for which a VirtualDJ version with stems would most likely not run, would be helpful.


Tbh, imo, none of the things you mentioned really are tech support issues, they are nice to haves/feature requests, and it's okay to bring them up, but please make sure you search the forums and read the user manual to know the state of affairs before making a new post.

An addition: Atomix is not in the business of making VirtualDJ = Serato - Serato is one implementation of how to solve the problem of mixing music and representing that on screen, however it is not the only way. If that is how you are approaching the use of the software, you'll never use it effectively. Be open to what is provided, read the manual, ask questions where things are uncovered and learn the VirtualDJ way - your experience will improve greatly as a result.
 
Posted 12 hours ago
kradcliffe wrote :
Reading some of those comments you clearly don't have a clue.


I clearly didn't ask for opinions.... if you don't have a positive suggestion then your input here is not needed.
 
Posted 10 hours ago
DJ VInyl touch :

1. Not the levels of the stem part... it is to know where the vocal stem begins as timing and speed is involved i am not always able to use the headphones as the instrumental stem plays on deck 1 & main, starting the voice of the other track on deck 2 i.e where it should be started is VIP i can begin scratching to time my scratch to start with deck 1 's beat not being able to see it is a hindrance I'm using colored wave forms.... also wishing that eq adjustments show on colored wave forms
2. Although i hv mapped keyboard shorts for cloning it does not clone stem ....currently looking for mapping to clone stem
3. Technically im asking virtual Dj to make a better algorithm that can do stem 2.0 faster with a basic gamer machine .. what if there is a better algorithm that will come soon?... what if ?
4. Nearly the entire dj fraternity here use Serato whilst VDJ is frowned upon as a beginner software the "coloring of output" by serato has also left Vdjx64 especially with a beginner sound and it becomes very noticeable when 1 dj plays a set for 3 hrs using serato, exits and a vdj dj then or even worse when the vdj guy was 1st with terrible highs and inaccurate bass then serato dj comes and begins an extreme difference is heard what i want vdj to be audibly comparative to serato.
5. I want vdj to be visually competitive with serato im already using a screen to mix why not add some colors.
6. i am using a Win7 machine daily (not my dj machine) with today's hardware it worx like a speeding bullet boots up in less than 10 secs..programs open without hesitation, heavy demand tasks are done in half the time it once took so imo the OS vs hardware makes a big difference ... if the stems could have been used on this type of OS it may have been a totally different chapter of stems.

I found the color rule script wished it was an on and off feature tho .......& i really haven't the time to search a forum that is not giving content oriented answers.
i have been using vdj ..atomix since its very 1st days and where i come from it is well known that serato has overtaken vdj , my peers use serato on Mac books the screens on these are a bit different (more colorful) , im using windows laptop it is my "wish" that i am able to color my pads yes for visual cohesion.
If a software has been around since the notion of mixing music on a screen was thought of e.g vdj atomix and then in time another software emerges with new aspects that cause the masses to flock to them, then a closer look needs to be taken as to why?... nearly all pro djs and Fm radio (in my country) use serato i am telling you an unbiased opinion .yes serato sounds better most importantly the scratch sounds better without having to set freq or calibrate touch and yes it even looks better
It would be helpful if a mapper for calibrations such as the touch wheel be given for users of specific controllers since I had to open serato to observe how its EQ and wave form & touch wheel is calibrated on beat grid to get my touch wheel on a sb3 to be similar for vdj as well as key comparisons to get a feel of how a serato dj will play what key will be alongside what key since we play riddims is not technical support i looking for these are my aspirations for vdj for me to be happy and keep using it .
BTW is there a pioneer controller currently that comes per-configured for and with virtual dj?
 
Posted 8 hours ago
DJ Don Gorgan wrote :

1. Not the levels of the stem part... it is to know where the vocal stem begins as timing and speed is involved i am not always able to use the headphones as the instrumental stem plays on deck 1 & main, starting the voice of the other track on deck 2 i.e where it should be started is VIP i can begin scratching to time my scratch to start with deck 1 's beat not being able to see it is a hindrance


This is covered by the Shapes waveform and the scratching part could be covered by smart cue point placement + knowing the music you are playing (looking at your screen to scratch/know when to scratch takes away from the ability to scratch imo because the things you are using to scratch aren't on screen, they are in front of you on your hardware setup). What did you do before stems became mainstream?

DJ Don Gorgan wrote :

I'm using colored wave forms.... also wishing that eq adjustments show on colored wave forms


This isn't covered and could be implemented but is a minor issue. Even if you mix without headphones, what do you pads and EQ say about the stem status (on the controller/mixer)?

DJ Don Gorgan wrote :

2. Although i hv mapped keyboard shorts for cloning it does not clone stem ....currently looking for mapping to clone stem


If you try your hand at some vdjscript you can probably get the job done. I'm not in position to workout + confirm the details for you rn but there are many script experta that are prob available can help with that (the foundation starts woth clone_from_deck

DJ Don Gorgan wrote :

3. Technically im asking virtual Dj to make a better algorithm that can do stem 2.0 faster with a basic gamer machine .. what if there is a better algorithm that will come soon?... what if ?


If you actually knew the technical details of what you were asking, you probably wouldn't have asked it.
Do you know of what they are even doing for the current stems 2.0 algorithm? Can you think of a better algorithm?

DJ Don Gorgan wrote :

4. Nearly the entire dj fraternity here use Serato whilst VDJ is frowned upon as a beginner software the "coloring of output" by serato has also left Vdjx64 especially with a beginner sound and it becomes very noticeable when 1 dj plays a set for 3 hrs using serato, exits and a vdj dj then or even worse when the vdj guy was 1st with terrible highs and inaccurate bass then serato dj comes and begins an extreme difference is heard what i want vdj to be audibly comparative to serato.


Thia will sound harsh but - this is of no fault to Atomix...it's entirely to blame on marketing, influencers and unfortunately, DJs who just follow other DJs/aren't open to alternatives.
5. I want vdj to be visually competitive with serato im already using a screen to mix why not add some colors. There is at least one post on here that explains why the output os uncoloured (it is true to the original sound which is what you should really want), but because another vendor went and broke that rule and got a huge following, it is believed by many that other vendors should follow but that isn't a given (Watching a large group jump off the cliff doesn't mean you should do it too). However, I do understand the nature of the industry and I also advocate for some optional coloring too...but we are also saying there is at least a way to do it now, even if it isn't built in. For what it's worth, this isn't a VirtualDJ only problem...other prominent platforms have made a similar decision to Atomix in their output type (and there are similar complaints on their forum)

DJ Don Gorgan wrote :

6. i am using a Win7 machine daily (not my dj machine) with today's hardware it worx like a speeding bullet boots up in less than 10 secs..programs open without hesitation, heavy demand tasks are done in half the time it once took so imo the OS vs hardware makes a big difference ... if the stems could have been used on this type of OS it may have been a totally different chapter of stems.


Just because it works well for your tasks, it doesn't mean it would work well for what you are asking (stems and AI processing). You have to remember that the occurence of stems in VirtualDJ came well after Windows 7, and machine resources + what can be done within the OS matter in that case, not just the OS and how it works in a probably very unrelated use case.

DJ Don Gorgan wrote :

I found the color rule script wished it was an on and off feature tho


This sounds like a color rule is not what you want to use - you want a quick filter. I'm guessing you are probably thinking of coloring as the answer because of your Serato usage, but there are many other effective methods of narrowing being offerend by VirtualDJ if you take the time to figure them out.

DJ Don Gorgan wrote :

.......& i really haven't the time to search a forum that is not giving content oriented answers.


This sounds like an overgeneralization and mischaracterisation of the forum content. Ppl here really want to help, but if you don't want to start the process for yourself, ppl may look down on that because it sends the message that you don't want to try to learn.

DJ Don Gorgan wrote :

i have been using vdj ..atomix since its very 1st days and where i come from it is well known that serato has overtaken vdj , my peers use serato on Mac books the screens on these are a bit different (more colorful) , im using windows laptop it is my "wish" that i am able to color my pads yes for visual cohesion.
If a software has been around since the notion of mixing music on a screen was thought of e.g vdj atomix and then in time another software emerges with new aspects that cause the masses to flock to them, then a closer look needs to be taken as to why?... nearly all pro djs and Fm radio (in my country) use serato i am telling you an unbiased opinion .yes serato sounds better most importantly the scratch sounds better without having to set freq or calibrate touch and yes it even looks better


Not trying to sound harsh here agsin but...what others use or don't use or flock to isn't really relevant to the matter here - it's not even guaranteed that their choices are unbiased/objective at all given the current climate of the DJ industry (ppl often learn from others and watch marketing videos and videos of ppl they look up to to make decisions instead of coming to their own conclusions).
What matters is if the software can help you do the things you need it to do for song selection and mixing, and how much effort it is to get that done using the software.

DJ Don Gorgan wrote :

It would be helpful if a mapper for calibrations such as the touch wheel be given for users of specific controllers since I had to open serato to observe how its EQ and wave form & touch wheel is calibrated on beat grid to get my touch wheel on a sb3 to be similar for vdj as well as key comparisons to get a feel of how a serato dj will play what key will be alongside what key since we play riddims is not technical support i looking for these are my aspirations for vdj for me to be happy and keep using it .


For all mapped controlls you can look at the Controllers tab and pretty much manipulate the controls and see what happens in the Activity box. There are options for touch and jogwheel movement multipliers in the options themselves, just check the list

DJ Don Gorgan wrote :

BTW is there a pioneer controller currently that comes per-configured for and with virtual dj?


Check the Pioneer Hardware page...there are many and literally any new controller mixer they have on the market is supported currently (at time of this writing).
 
Posted 7 hours ago